Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

01/24/2007 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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*+ SB 5 FAILURE TO REPORT CRIMES TELECONFERENCED
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= SB 19 EXEC. BRANCH ETHICS:INTERESTS & ACTIONS
Moved CSSB 19(JUD) Out of Committee
= SB 20 LEGISLATIVE DISCLOSURES
Moved CSSB 20(JUD) Out of Committee
         SB  19-EXEC. BRANCH ETHICS:INTERESTS & ACTIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HOLLIS FRENCH  announced the  consideration of  SB 19  and                                                               
reminded  members  that  CSSB  19,  Version  M,  was  before  the                                                               
committee. He numbered the proposed amendments 1-6.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:45:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CHARLIE  HUGGINS motioned  to adopt Amendment  1, labeled                                                               
25-LS0160\M.1, as follows:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 1                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "regarding":                                                                                   
          Insert ", or influencing,"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6, following "officer's":                                                                                     
          Insert "action or influence with respect to the                                                                       
     officer's"                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH explained  that the amendment makes  two changes the                                                               
first of which is  a slight change to the title.  The second is a                                                               
grammatical  clarification indicating  that  it's  the action  or                                                               
influence that is the violation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 1 was adopted without objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS motioned to adopt Amendment 2, labeled 25-                                                                      
LS0160\M.2, as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 2                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7:                                                                                                            
          Delete "the outcome of"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 10:                                                                                                           
     Delete "matter's outcome"                                                                                                  
     Insert "matter"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH restated the changes and noted that Senator                                                                        
Therriault looked quizzical.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GENE THERRIAULT questioned removing the word "outcome."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH responded it didn't strike him as a substantive                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 2 was adopted without objection                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS motioned to adopt Amendment 3, labeled 25-                                                                      
LS0160\M.3, as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 3                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 1:                                                                                                            
          Delete "and"                                                                                                          
          Insert "or"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH explained that the drafters opined that the word                                                                   
"and" is confusing in this context.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked if subparagraph (C) didn't sweep in                                                                    
subparagraph (B) and make it unnecessary.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH advised that (B) relates to a personal interest and                                                                
(C) relates to a financial interest.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked about a separate definition for                                                                        
"personal interest."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH said the definition  was read into the record during                                                               
the last hearing.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT agreed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 3 was adopted without objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  motioned  to  adopt Amendment  4,  labeled  25-                                                               
LS0160\M.7, as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 4                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 5, following "business":                                                                                      
          Insert "and the controlling interest has a fair                                                                       
     market value of $5,000 or more"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH explained  that  this addresses  the  issue of  the                                                               
worth  of  a  business  that  someone  has  an  interest  in.  He                                                               
mentioned the lemonade  stand example and said  it doesn't matter                                                               
if someone  has a controlling interest  in the business if  it is                                                               
of  relatively little  value. The  $5,000  standard was  selected                                                               
because it is used elsewhere in the bill.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH   restated  (C)(i)   and  questioned   whether  the                                                               
amendment shouldn't read  "$5,000 or less" instead  of "$5,000 or                                                               
more." Several  committee members voiced agreement  and the Chair                                                               
proposed to  change "or more" to  "or less" on line  2. There was                                                               
no objection.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 4, as amended, was adopted without objection.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  motioned  to  adopt Amendment  5,  labeled  25-                                                               
LS0160\M.5, as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 5                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 8, following "total":                                                                                         
          Insert "fair market"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      Page 2, line 10, following the second occurrence of                                                                       
     "the":                                                                                                                     
          Insert "fair market"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11, following "total":                                                                                        
          Insert "fair market"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH explained  that this  captures the  concern Senator                                                               
Therriault expressed  at the  previous hearing  regarding valuing                                                               
business interests.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 5 was adopted without objection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  motioned  to  adopt Amendment  6,  labeled  25-                                                               
LS0160\M.6, as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                      A M E N D M E N T 6                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 14:                                                                                                           
     Delete "elected"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  explained  that  an   officer  in  a  business  is                                                               
precluded from taking official action  on behalf of that business                                                               
while he or  she is employed as an executive  branch employee. It                                                               
doesn't matter whether the officer is elected or not.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 6 was adopted without objection                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  the  committee  to  reconsider  the                                                               
amendment  to  Amendment 4  because  the  term really  should  be                                                               
"more."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  called a brief  at-ease and reconvened  the meeting                                                               
at 2:57:04 PM.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  brought Amendment 4  back before the  committee and                                                               
restated the original version as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 5, following "business":                                                                                      
          Insert "and the controlling interest has a fair                                                                       
     market value of $5,000 or more"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 4 was adopted without objection                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Finding  no further  questions or  amendments Chair  French asked                                                               
for the will of the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LESIL  McGUIRE motioned  to report  CSSB 19,  as amended,                                                               
from committee with individual  recommendations and attached zero                                                               
fiscal  note(s). There  being no  objection,  CSSB 19(JUD)  moved                                                               
from the Senate Judiciary Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH called a brief recess.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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